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BONES: Creator Hart Hanson Answers Questions on Season 5 Controversies

September 16, 2010 by  

As many BONES fans are likely aware, there were a few, um, controversial storylines in the fifth season.

Whether it was Brennan turning down Booth’s request to give their romantic relationship a try in the 100th episode — which I loved, despite the heartbreak — or the team splitting up in the season finale — which I had issues with — viewers certainly had a lot to debate last season.

Before the new season begins, I thought it might be nice to chat with BONES creator Hart Hanson and get his take on a few of the storylines that divided the fans…

When did you know that Booth, Brennan and the rest of the team would be parting ways at the end of season 5?
Hart Hanson:
In my memory, it was around December of last year as we were coming up towards the end of the [season in the writers room]. Certainly by the time the 100th episode was fully conceived. I had that in mind for a long time though, that 100th episode, so it was around then — once I got the network and the studio to sign off on the 100th episode — that we knew that we would split them up. Because we needed a season ender that was at least as interesting as our 100th episode.

I don’t think it was a secret how much I loved episode 100. I thought it was fantastic–
HH:
I loved it!

–and I know some people didn’t like the ending, but I thought it was really true to their characters.
HH:
And you wrote something nice to that effect.

I did. I think based on what we have seen of them, it made sense why they both reacted the way they did.
HH:
I thought it had integrity, too. I thought it held through. I liked it.

Though the case in episode 100’s flashback wasn’t the same one we heard Booth talk about in the pilot…
HH:
We did that on purpose. So if you didn’t like it, it wasn’t an accident. It was, let’s shadow the first case. I have to say, most people didn’t notice, which surprised me.

Interesting. And while I personally liked the ending, I did hear from a lot of fans who felt Booth gave up on Brennan too fast after she turned him down. Booth did vow to love her for the next 30, 40, 50 years, but when Brennan turned him down, he immediately jumped to “I need to move on.” Do you think it’s fair to say he gave up too quickly?
HH:
Obviously, I disagree. A guy tells a story of when he tried before [to make a relationship work]. Sweets says to him, you have to be the one. And he does. He’s the one. He says, no bullshit, nothing about jobs, I’ll do anything to make this work. And she says, “no” and he believes her that she means no. And I thought Brennan conveyed that she meant no. It hurt the hell out of her, [she was] heartbroken, but she did not waiver. And he’s a grown man. Whether he wants to or not, to keep his sense of himself as an adult and an adult man, for him to go, okay, I gotta [move on] — I think we’ve all been there. I think everyone’s been there: when do you become a stalker? When do you accept that is not going to work?

Not to mention, Booth has an addictive personality. There could be an argument that he replaced his gambling addiction with his addiction to Brennan.
HH:
Yeah. And I like the fact that she said, “I’ve been protecting you.” I think he realizes, oh, that’s true. Because he can give, she can’t give, and he’s going, maybe I am never getting this. So for him to keep holding out hope starts to become a little creepy in my eyes. But not everyone agreed. Lots of people think he should have kept trying.

Though to be fair to Booth, he also was trying in his own way for almost five seasons.
HH:
Yeah.

Okay, let’s talk the season finale. I have to say I agree with the fans who didn’t really understand Booth’s reasoning for leaving D.C. Brennan leaving for the dig makes complete and total sense, because it was completely true to her character. But Booth going back to the Army after we were told that he wanted to balance his cosmic balance sheet seems to go against everything we were told about his character.
HH:
Here’s the thing, though — maybe I should have made this more clear [in the episode] — he did not go back to shoot people. He didn’t go back to be a sniper and shoot people. He went back to train people: how to catch insurgents, how to do police work.

Yeah, that wasn’t clear enough in the episode.
HH:
I know, that’s a problem. He went back to show people how to be cops in a country where there were no cops. So yeah, I heard that, people saying, he never would have done that, go back and be a sniper. I agree. He would never go back and be a sniper. He would never do that again.

Okay, good to know. Did you feel there was too much was squeezed into the season finale? Between the case, Booth and Brennan debating if they should leave,  the Daisy-Sweets and the Angela-Hodgins-Billy Gibbons plot, that was four complete stories you were trying to tell in one episode. Did you try and squeeze too much into one episode?
HH:
No. I mean, of course it’s a fair argument, but our decision is not to be MAD MEN and have everything unfold incredibly slow. If I had 2.9 million viewers, I’d be off the air in a week. So no matter how nomalistic or beautiful it is…we’re a network TV show, we have to bang, bang, bang along. We’re partially an ensemble show. It’s a totally fair [argument], we just decided to not do that.

You were on Twitter a lot the day after the finale aired, replying to some of the negativity, etc. Why was that?
HH:
[pause] One thing I’ve found is, even the hated season enders, people have liked in retrospect after the season opener. Especially the alternate reality one. I got [insulted] by a huge number of people who then went back and liked it in retrospect. I’m not sure that’s good showrunning. I don’t know. But I always think of the season ender and the season opener as a two-parter.

Yes, we had this conversation last year, too.
HH:
Certainly I have failed to leave people happy at the end of a season.

I don’t remember people being pissed off after the first season finale…
HH:
I’d rather they weren’t pissed off.

But some people are pissed off. At what point is getting that angry reaction doing more damage than good?
HH:
Here’s the other thing that’s really hard to remember: the internet people are not the voice of the 10 million fans of BONES. They are a very small, vocal, passionate, fanatics. So they have reactions that don’t match the reactions of just the “normal” TV viewer. And unfortunately, I can’t be swayed by the people who love — and hate — the show most. We get a lot of input that isn’t from the internet. We have market research and the marketing people, the promos people. So I have to not listen to the [internet] people, just because they shout the loudest.

Thoughts?

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39 Responses to “BONES: Creator Hart Hanson Answers Questions on Season 5 Controversies”

  1. Ashley on September 16th, 2010 7:29 pm

    I think Hart Hanson is very honest in his approach to storylines and fans. As a new fan, I have come to appreciate his openness and lack of pretense in answering questions. With regards to Booth’s return to the military, I thought the finale addressed the fact that he would not be a sniper but an instructor. He stated it clearly to Caroline. Maybe I’ve watched it too many times.

    My opinion is no more important than any other fan but it looks like many find the virtual anonymity empowering and manners can be lost in their passion. This is true for any comment section found online and especially on Twitter. The loudest do get heard but do not necessarily represent a high percentage of any fanbase (television, political, religious, sports, etc.). Then again, I see this more and more in any public setting. If showrunners (like coaches) relied only the opinions of those expressed online, then they wouldn’t be doing their jobs. I only made this the focus of my comments because overanalyzing the actions of fictional characters is a waste of a great show, in my opinion. At this point (1 week before premiere), it’s useless. It’s time to jump back into their story and see what new surprises (good & bad) await. I’m looking forward to season 6 and the continued journey of this fabulously dysfunctional family at the Jeffersonian.

  2. EL on September 16th, 2010 7:29 pm

    If the internet people are the most passionate and they lose interest, you can bet the ‘normal’ people won’t be far behind. All I have heard since the season finale is dissatisfaction with the direction this show is taking and personally I think they missed their moment — to put it in Hartspeak — last season. Too much competition in the time slot this season and too many people who are just plain bored with a nearly middle-aged couple unable to decide if they’re going to be together.

    Numbers will tell. If Hart’s vaunted ten million starts next week at eight or nine begins to dwindle over the first half dozen episodes then he has backed the wrong horse, together unfortunately with Seeley Booth and Temperance Brennan.

  3. ForensicMama on September 16th, 2010 7:33 pm

    Thank you! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  4. Linda on September 16th, 2010 9:17 pm

    Marisa,
    Thanks again for another great interview. I just love how you know your stuff about my favorite show. Please keep asking those tough questions! Guess my opinion doesn’t matter too much (according to Hart Hanson), as I am one of those small, vocal, passionate, fanatic internet fans who is getting tired of the “will they, won’t they” and SO story lines on Bones. That being said, I won’t stop watching Bones, as I have invested 5 seasons watching the progression of the Booth and Brennan story. I just hope that they have not “missed their moment” and that “everything happens eventually”, will not be the final episode of Bones!

  5. Drippan on September 16th, 2010 9:23 pm

    I think it’s a little to late for this explanation of what took place last year and nothing on the reaction of S5 finale being a disaster as far as the writing (the Parker scene).

    As far as the internet people, I think they do a good representation of what is going to happen. When you take everything into account, even the old hard core fans have lost faith in the series. You, Marisa, is a prime example of a huge fangirl who wouldn’t let people veer away from the show. Now you are telling people to watch and make up their own mind. It seems your faith has twindled.

    I thought HH would be the first in a long time to have a really creative show and he did up til S3. Heck, he thought it wouldn’t even run that long. It was after that that the series’ creativity went down as he went to the old Hollywood adage of maintain the UST at all cost. Yes, S4/5 were a success but this was due to the show being picked up by TNT. We saw the numbers reach a high of 12 million but drop to 9 million at the end of the season. That is 3 million viewers that won’t be back.

    Oh well. This is one fan of the series who has decided that HH is well on the way of running a show with great potential into the ground. I won’t be watching this season because I’m not a person who needs to see ‘The Little Engine That Could’ turn into a train wreck.

  6. rynogeny on September 16th, 2010 10:02 pm

    I’ve always understood why he draws a distinction between online fans and the viewers who matter (those being polled by marketers, apparently) because no viewer, or group of viewers, should control the way the show goes. He tells his story and the viewers watch or don’t. None of them should have the power to determine where it goes, even if 9 million of them were to agree on something. (Which is unlikely in the extreme, another reason I think he should be left alone to tell his story, whether I personally like it or not.)

    But I do think he’s making some assumptions. The other night, he seemed to equate his 23K Twitter followers with the online community; here he seems to be assuming that none of those important viewers — the ones who aren’t fanatics, who aren’t talking to marketing depts — are on-line. For starters, not every online fan is following him on Twitter, not by a long shot. Right now, I know more people who aren’t on Twitter than who are. Most of them watch TV and some of them are quite passionate about what they watch. Including a number of Bones fans.

    Second…is it still the 18-49 age range that’s so important to shows, or has that changed? Most people I know in their 20’s and 30’s are online. Maybe they don’t spend hours on forums and maybe they’ve not created a Twitter account so they can follow their favorite actor/writer/showrunner, but most of them occasionally check sites for information about their favorite shows, and occasionally talk to other fans. In other words, it sounds like he’s drawing a distinction between what he sees as a negligibly small group of passionate fans and his ‘real’ audience, and he feels safe in ignoring the opinions of the former. But in the world we now live in, that strikes me as a false dichotomy. No, not all his viewers are following him on Twitter, but that doesn’t mean a fair number of them don’t at least occasionally go online for information about the show, talk to other fans, etc.

    Third, it might be interesting to know how many of those important viewers started watching the show because of one of the passionate fans. I know I’m responsible for two people who are completely dedicated to the show but would never have started watching it if not for me.

    As I said, I don’t think anyone should influence the show but the writers. It’s his story and he needs to tell it. Our choice, as viewers, is whether to turn on the TV or not. That’s it. That’s where our control ends, and that’s the way it should be. But dismissing online fans as being unimportant because he thinks the numbers are inconsequential in a world and culture where people are constantly online, constantly talking, constantly recommending stuff, strikes me as unwise, because no, those important viewers — the ones not online, in his mind, or at least not yelling at him on Twitter — don’t exist in a vacuum.

  7. A on September 16th, 2010 10:06 pm

    So this sounds like “everything isn’t going to happen eventually”

    They were such a good love story, soul mates, and it just breaks my heart that it is turning out this way.

    It sounded pretty final that Booth has given up on Bones and is moving on permanently. I am so disappointed.

  8. Maddie on September 16th, 2010 10:09 pm

    I am one of those “internet fanatics” and resent being told that I am not a “normal” viewer, especially after investing 5years into this show. I as a “fan” have the right to voice my displeasure of watching Booth & Brennan go backwards to Season 2 in Season 6. After investing 5 years, waiting for that final moment for the couple that has so much chemistry & potential to not be given the chance they so deserve to be is just beyond ridiculous! I am also one of “those” people who do not think Booth gave her a chance & believe he “moved on” too quickly even for a “guy”. When Brennan said “I cannot change”, if Booth really loved her, he would have said “I love you just the way you are”. Now, we have another SO S/L in Season 6 that has been played to death, it is just not interesting anymore. If HH feels “regular viewers” think this is “OK”, well then, I am afraid for this show…B&B are the reason people watch…the “will they, won’t they” is just plain OLD…

    Another note, I absolutely LOVED the S4 finale! Yes, it was a “dream”, but is showed me that they still can be together as a couple & still have one heck of a show! For TPTB not to capitolize on this just does not make any sense to me.

  9. Linda on September 16th, 2010 10:29 pm

    Thank you Maddie…You said it so much better than I did!

  10. Tiffany on September 16th, 2010 10:33 pm

    I think TPTB are cluing into the thread that this show will be hanging on this season. The fact that we are getting so many promos and “sneak peeks” and they leaked a storyline that the cast and crew of the show were hoping would be a big surprise, tells me that they are a little nervous about the feedback they are receiving from fans right now.

    Personally, while I think the SO storyline is BEYOND over-played in this series, I am more concerned with the regression of the BB relationship. Yes, some regression is natural under the circumstances the characters are in, but if they don’t get back the dynamic that they have worked 5 seasons to build…the dynamic that is getting them 10 million viewers, I would be surprised to see a 7th season and I certainly wouldn’t watch it.

    I am willing to give this season a chance because I love the show and it hasn’t let me down yet…but there’s only so long before I take a page out of Booth’s book and just MOVE ON because it’s never going to happen.

  11. Marisa Roffman on September 16th, 2010 11:37 pm

    @Drippan- The reason I didn’t harp on the Parker scene is because he’s already said he based it off someone he knows. Do I think it was realistic? No. But you also can’t argue it’s unrealistic with someone when it happened to someone in their life.

  12. amc815 on September 16th, 2010 11:55 pm

    Thank you, Marisa!! 🙂

  13. Eridapo on September 17th, 2010 2:18 am

    I found the ratings for each episode of season 5 on another site, but they do tell the tale of what is going on with Bones. If Hanson believes the people are loving this story arc, how does he explain the drop of 1.3M viewers. As season 5 started, Bones audience began to grow and it reach a high of 12.7 Million viewers before the final 8 episode arc in which ratings took a significant hit.

    Marisa,

    Maybe next time you can ask HH to explain the loss of over a million viewers.

    501 (THitF) 10.1M viewers. (Survivor)
    502 (TBitB) 8.8M viewers. (Survivor/ Early Flash Forward)
    503 (TPitP) 9.0M viewers. (Survivor/ Early Flash Forward)
    504 (TBDitN) 9.9M viewers. (Survivor/ Early Flash Forward)
    505 (ANitBM) 9.3M viewers. (Survivor/ Early Flash Forward)10/15/09

    BASEBALL BREAK
    506 (TTMinTC) 8.9M viewers. (Survivor/ EarlyFlash Forward)11/5 (a week early)
    507 (TDwarfinD) 10.1M viewers. (Survivor)
    508 (TFitF) 10.2M viewers. (Survivor) – Pops
    509 (TGameritG) 9.93M viewers. (Survivor)
    510 (TGoopitG) 10.8M viewers. (Survivor) – Christmas /Zoe 12/10/09

    CHRISTMAS BREAK
    511 (TXiTF) 10.2M viewers. 01/14/10
    512 (TPiTP) 12.4M viewers.
    513 (TDiTD) 12.7M viewers.
    514 (TDevItD) 12.6M viewers 2/4/10

    WINTER BREAK
    EIGHT SHOW ADVERTISED CYCLE
    515 (TBoaBL) 8.4M viewers. (Survivor)
    516 (TPinSotW) 10.1M viewers. (Survivor) – 100th
    517 (TDotQB) 9.7M viewers. (Survivor)
    518 (TPitP) 9.3M viewers. (Survivor)
    519 (TRitRC) 9.6M viewers. (Survivor)
    520 (TWitW) 9.2M viewers. (Survivor)
    521 (TBWtA) 9.3M viewers. (Survivor)
    522 (TBitE) 9.6M viewers

    Average # of viewers for first seven eps (1stthird) 9.44
    Average # of viewers mid-season ( eps 8-14) =11.2
    Average # of viewers for eight show cycle = 9.40
    Average # of viewers for season = 10.00
    Average # of viewers before eight show cycle =10.7

    Difference between eight ep cycle and rest ofseason = 1.3

  14. arzu eksioglu on September 17th, 2010 3:54 am

    Howmany season we will have now.. I want to learn…

  15. Drippan on September 17th, 2010 7:21 am

    @marisa I know he explained it on Twitter about Parker sending him off.

    What I was referring to was that whole scene with Parker such as the Army contacting Rebecca. I can’t understand how such a high powerful government agency can’t find an FBI Special Agent who works in the Hoover Building.

    That was a bad scene all the way around……

  16. Drippan on September 17th, 2010 8:24 am

    Hey Marisa,

    You told HH that Booth has been trying for 5 years for a relationship with Brennan. When do you see this in the series? When Booth told Sully there was nothing between them? When he told Brennan to sail off with him? How about the most recent one when he told Hacker the same thing? Or was it the quantifier of ‘in an atta girl kinda way? Or is it the more realistic Booth who told Sweets in ‘Pain in the Heart’, “You know you can’t rush her”? How about all the ‘just partners’? Is that Booth trying?

    Seriously, when has Booth actually tried a move on Brennan in the whole 5 years vice denying anything going on between them?

    As far as the market research versus the internet crowd, I think HH needs to face the reality. Market research looks at people’s reactions to past episodes where decisions are made for future episodes. I don’t think the internet crowd as being ‘fanatics’ but give an instant reaction on how things are at the moment. To dismiss that is also bad.

    I do believe that another market research was conducted after the finale with the results being the same as the fanatics on the internet were. There seems to be alot of damage control going on this upcoming season with giving away plotlines, executive producers trying to reassure the masses and the Bones’ characters introducing all the shows on Fox. Even this interview was conducted to try to explain all the complaints from last season since the 100th though I think the finale wasn’t hit on hard enough.

    My biggest worry though is your reaction. Marisa, you have always been a huge Bones fan who never waivered but it seems to me that you also are a little disappointed with the direction of the series. I love it that you say ‘Look folks, give it a chance’ in one breath but then say ‘But I understand if you don’t want to watch’. You can understand the disappointment in the fans and why some have finally given up. I think it’s sad that a little piece of your heart for this series has been hurt in some ways.

  17. shelly on September 17th, 2010 10:31 am

    While I come and read a lot I am one of those internet fans that lurk.

    Why? Because I do not agree with the majority of internet fans on most things in regard to this show. I figure they can have their bit of heaven where everyone generally agrees with them and they can gang up against the outside world.

    Personally, I LOVE the 100th. I thought the finale was forgettable but it didn’t upset me in any way (admittedly I was packing for a trip to Greece at the time so I was a little distracted but on rewatch I felt the same).

    I own every DVD set and will buy the 5th season as well. I have watched every episode from the very beginning.

    I have also been approached by Fox to participate in their Market Research over the passed 3 years. Why? I’m 27 (the perfect age) and I don’t watch a lot of TV. They are very interested in finding out what will get me to watch more.

    After the finale I was asked to give my thoughts on Bones – what I thought about the fifth season and where I wanted the show to go in the future.

    I remember stating three things very clearly.

    1) The 100th was my favorite episode of bones (ever).
    2) I enjoyed seeing Booth start dating someone else and I love his scenes with Parker.
    3) I would like to see more of Booth dating other people in the future.

    While I enjoy the cute scenes between Booth and Brennan I was ready for a change. Booth is such a great guy and for me it is not realistic for him to continuously chase after Brennan. He’s desirable and he deserves adored by someone.

    From what I have seen about the new season I am very excited! It’s exactly what I was hoping they would do. While I don’t think the new relationship will be permanent, I am looking forward to see how the story will unfold.

    There you have it. A view from someone who reads a lot but never deems to comment. Perhaps there are a few more of me out there in world.

  18. Kath Skerry on September 17th, 2010 10:37 am

    @Shelly – Thanks for taking the time out to join in on the discussion. Perhaps you’ll inspire a few more ‘lurkers’ to share their thoughts.

  19. Shelby on September 17th, 2010 10:50 pm

    Thank you Marisa! Your interviews are always lovely. 🙂 I thoroughly enjoy them.

    As for the rest of you, who are complaining about HH? Seriously? Grow up. You’re only furthering his point that we’re psycho. Of course we’re not ‘normal’ TV fans. Do most fans lurk on spoiler sites and pounce on every opportunity to criticize the higher powers who don’t give them what they want right away?

    I’m a hardcore B&B shipper and I looove Bones so very much, and just like the rest of you there are some things I miss, don’t like, or don’t agree with. But that’s part of it. Normal fans understand that. 😉

    To be honest- I think you all would be offended if he generalized us with the rest of the fans! That poor man can’t say a darn thing to make his fans happy. I mean, you have to give him props. He’s not bitter. We Bones fans aren’t exactly good at sugar-coating our criticism.

    So if you’re going to quit watching Bones, just drop it all together. Because those of you who rant and rave about it here are just obnoxious, depressing, and begging for attention. It’s not cute.

    On that happy note, I’m excited for the new season! 😀 I have faith things will work out. And if they don’t… well, at least the ride was fun while it lasted. Thanks again Marisa, and sorry about my rant. 😛

  20. Kath Skerry on September 18th, 2010 7:55 am

    @Shelby – It’s always important to be respectful of others. I love that you are so passionate about the show, but let’s stay away from name calling other Bones fans. Deal?

  21. carole on September 18th, 2010 7:58 am

    that help me to know why booth went back to the army/not understanding that is why so many fans was upset and the parker scene now dont seem that bad.

  22. carole on September 18th, 2010 8:04 am

    I think hart hanson should of made this clear right after the s5 finale the reason booth went back to the army/he might not of turn so many fans against bones . is this a case of he thought everyone knew?

  23. carole on September 18th, 2010 8:15 am

    knowing this might also help the booth hannah relationship and keep booth from looking liked a jerk or worse/it changes my whole way of thinking.

  24. carole on September 18th, 2010 9:56 am

    I hope 10 million fan reads this article/this might be booth lifesaver/at least in my eyes.

  25. carole on September 18th, 2010 10:43 am

    one more comment this makes the booth,hannah war zone romance real and not just booth way of trying to hurt bones. the fans that have tried to find a twist to this storyline are victims of the internet. again all the hyped is gonna hurt bones.sort of liked the woman that throw acid in her own face/

  26. EL on September 18th, 2010 1:33 pm

    One of the possible measures of dwindling interest in this show might be seen by the number of people who comment after Marisa’s articles. In May there were over a hundred responses, granted that was about more shows than just Bones, but there were a substantial number. Now I count roughly 16 people bothering to comment on Hart’s comments. This may be a totally false view of what is going on but it may be at least one indicator that many people are just fed up.

  27. ann on September 18th, 2010 1:40 pm

    I hope the ones that are fed up watch anyway /I think hannah is afriend and not a girlfriend/she tells everyone but bones/but would angelea keep that a secret?

  28. ann on September 18th, 2010 5:30 pm

    hannah is bones half sister, thats why they said we go from hate to love. just a theory/

  29. lori on September 18th, 2010 10:26 pm

    I loved episode 100 and the ending with the progression of the relationship with all its complications etc. What I wish HH would address is all the inconsistencies in the plot lines that make litttle sense if you carefully follow the show. For instance, in the earlier seasons, Bones is much more socially related to Booth, she recognizes when he is hurt and responds. Though she makes inappropriate social comments, she has a some basic sense about social interactions, family loyality, and love. But in season 5, the writers make her seem out of it, almost autistic in her inability to understand her world. Why the regression? Why would someone who has so much interest in cultures have so little basic understanding of local social mores? Why would a woman who was so earlier capable of lust and desire become so unable to negotiate even basic sexual signals from Booth? Why would someone who comments on the significance of a gift from a potential girlfiend to Booth not be able to make any statements about the mutlitude of gifts from Booth to her? From a psychological and clinical point of view , it makes no sense. To me, her leaving makes both perfect professional and personal sense: she flees when emotionally threatened . But it is the obliviousness to her own history with Booth which the writers seem to ignore that make me wonder. Its the same lack of attention to detail when they have Brennan costumed in outfits that don’t match the timeline unless she is earing the same clothing in successive days which would be highly unlikely for a woman no matter how oblivious they make her out to be.

  30. Kelley C on September 19th, 2010 10:45 am

    I am also someone who usually lurks on websites. I did have some issues with the last season of Bones. But it’s what I have heard about the upcoming season that is making me question watching the show. A Jersey Shore episode, really? Having Booth come back with a girlfriend? That idea wasn’t fresh when they did it on A Different World 20 years ago. Seems like they are running out of good ideas.
    Also, I did not appreciate the totally unneccesary jab at Mad Men by Hart. I have enjoyed this season on Mad Men a whole lot more than the last season of Bones.

  31. Anja on September 19th, 2010 12:37 pm

    I have to actually thank Hart Hanson for completely destroying my addiction to the show! I’m free!!!
    Apparently Fox marketing people have told him for the past 5 years to push the B&B chemistry, make them fall in love and keep people glued to the screen. But, again apparently, now they told him to go ahead and tear it down. Ok, probably I’m just a noisy internet fan who doesn’t count and doesn’t understand. Oh, by the way, I’m also part of the demo group.
    Thank you Marisa. But please before saying Booth tried for 5 years, don’t forget the infamous line HE drew in season 2, so you and Hanson are not exactly correct.
    As for the stalking, I still think Booth is not coming out clean and honest out of his moving on being madly in love with a woman after a few months before he just professed eternal love to another. But again, Hanson is a guy and he says guys are like that.. what do I know?
    Good luck show, I’ll make sure I also UNfollow Hanson on twitter so he will not have to be bothered again but this noisy and useless fan.

  32. jennie on September 19th, 2010 4:47 pm

    I feel totally conflicted about his answer to the 100th. Because, if he wasn’t the one who wrote it, I would tell him he was dead-wrong. Booth didn’t give it his all… he gave up when it got scary. WE know Booth’s been pining for five seasons/six years… but Brennan doesn’t. Brennan only knows he wants a wife and children, and a picket fence in her mind. It scares me that HH doesn’t see the potential that he left there. . . and that this isn’t all on Brennan. She has never wanted those things, and she was trying to protect him from a broken heart at her hands. It was written correctly, but it makes me sad that he doesn’t seem to get Brennan’s perspective on it… which again, conflicts me, because he wrote it.

    Honestly, knowing his thoughts on Booth-not-trying-hard-enough makes me a little nervous to watch the beginning of season 6. I’d normally be the last person who’d think to give it a few episodes before I start watching, in hopes that it all goes better than I’m expecting, but his comments really have me reconsidering turning on Bones for a few episodes. I’m just not prepared to have a TV show of all things crush my heart. . .

  33. MinnKim on September 19th, 2010 6:58 pm

    I sometimes feel that what I understand is happening in an episode and what the writers have written to happen, are two different things.

  34. Jane, London, UK on September 20th, 2010 7:18 am

    Don’t forget, people, that this is based on the books, and Kathy Reichs herself said in the blurb at the back of one of the books, that the television show supposed to be the early part of Brennan’s career, before she ends up in Canada.

    And Booth ain’t with her in Canada.

  35. dd on September 20th, 2010 1:36 pm

    Jane – all due respect to Kathy Reichs, but she’s just making that sort of stuff up to make herself feel better. They regularly wheel her out for panel interviews, but I really don’t think she has that much say about where the TV characters are going to end up. My goodness, didn’t I sound hopeful then?

    EL – I agree, I’ve been quite amazed by the lack of responses to many of the forum/LJ threads I’ve been reading. Deader than a doornail in a lot of cases. I don’t remember it being the same last season. What’s the thing they were most worried about? Oh yeah – apathy. I see that all over the place. People not even caring if B/B get together anymore.

    For me, the biggest worry from the promos is that the B/B spark seems to have disappeared. Gone. Vamoose. Given that’s the whole driving force of the show and realistically, they can’t be eye-sexing with Hannah around for a long time, I’d be very, very worried, if I were TPTB.

  36. EL on September 20th, 2010 2:22 pm

    dd: ditto and I think they are worried hence the sudden refocus from ‘here comes Hannah’ to ‘Booth will torpedo the relationship just hold on’. All those network shows now scheduled for Thursday at 8:00 makes me think other networks know Bones is vulnerable and from the lame story ideas that have been leaked, they’re right.

  37. Chris on September 20th, 2010 2:25 pm

    Thank you Marisa.
    I am very disappointed by the words of Hart Hanson here. He´s not answering to your questions saying: I understand the reactions of SOME fans, but I have this story of mine to tell, and I´ll tell it they way it has to even though some might not like it.
    No, he answers like: I don´t bother about those fanatics on the internet, anyway MY marketing people told me I´ll sell my product anyway, to easier consumers.
    So, good answer mr Hanson, now we know you are not a writer, you are a salesman.
    And agree with Jennie and Anja. It seems Hanson himself has forgotten how he created his product, forgetting the line imposed by Booth in S2 and many issues on Booth´s part even in his willing to gamble his relationship with Brennan. In his answers no trace of those, which makes me cringe.

  38. Jenny on September 20th, 2010 2:28 pm

    @Maddie Thank you! Exactly..

    Isn’t it the unimportant group of fans that make stuff like a Bones Yearbook, win every online award for the show there is? Break twitter during tweetpeats. This group invests a lot of time, effort, emotion and yes even money into the show. I have turned at least 4 of my friends into dedicated watchers, I even got the entire family to watch. But hey we’re unimportant right?! I had to convince many people to still give the show a chance after the 100th. People who are not online, never posted a tweet before.. But hey it’s just the weirdo’s from the Internet, who complain..

    The type of B&B storyline we’re about to get was acceptable in season 2, right now it’s just over-done and a 100 steps back. I just hope they get their stuff together. There are so many fun directions to go in, that involve Booth & Brennan together. They’re wasting the incredible chemistry between Emily & David.

    Also placing the blame on Brennan for the 100th and aftermath is completely unfair. What HH made her say was I’m not good enough, if Booth truly loved her and was ready he would’ve told her that she was and he would’ve told her that. I can get the not pushing but he left her under the impression that she was not good enough and afterwards he just kept on conveying that message by saying he had to move on and then by dating a more socially conscious Her and now with Hannah. Seriously what person, male or female, that is completely ready and sure and ‘that guy’, goes from wanting 30, 40, 50 years with someone and in the same minute says he has to move on. When the socially awkward, damaged person, he’s known better than himself for 5/6 years (depending on whether or not you count the year before), says she’s been trying to PROTECT him and pretty much says she’s not good enough. He was that guy, so he should’ve known better.

    Also this is not the first time HH has been, well almost disrespectful to the online fans, we’re still fans, we’re still normal people, we just tweet/use social media. I wonder how well the show will do, how much love and support he will receive once these people are finally fed up with the show.

    I will watch but right now it’s more for the amazing acting of Emily & the squints, than anything else. I am, however, very pleased with the direction Angela and Hodgins are going. I just wish they would stop with the 3rd parties, it’s been done too many times.

  39. Lydia (Bonesfan47) on September 20th, 2010 3:22 pm

    You guys he is not saying we are unimportant he is saying that we are a small percentage compared to the 10 million viewers he has. And that is true not to mention some of the people on twitter and other social media groups are very happy with what he is doing right now I for one am one of them. I do want Booth and Brennan to get together I am a huge shipper and everyone that knows me knows that but I am still excited and can’t wait for the new season and I look forward to seeing how everything will play out including the Hannah storyline. So please don’t take what Hart Hanson is saying the wrong way he is just saying that we are a small percentage he’s not saying we are unimportant Bring on season 6 I so can’t wait till Thursday!!!