GHOSTS Post-Mortem: Sheila Carrasco and Devan Chandler Long on Flower and Thor’s Date Twist

[Warning: This post contains spoilers for the Thursday, February 16 episode of GHOSTS, “A Date to Remember.”]

Flower (Sheila Carrasco) and Thor (Devan Chandler Long) had their perfect first date on the Thursday, February 16 episode of GHOSTS…and then she promptly forgot it.

Undeterred, Thor convinced the household to recreate the night for him. But Flower accidentally blew her cover while they were watching improv, revealing that she did remember the date—she just hadn’t wanted it to go well.

Sam (Rose McIver) and Flower had a heart-to-heart, and Flower admitted she was worried about getting too close to Thor after being crushed when her last monogamous relationship ended in heartbreak. (Through no one’s fault.)

Ultimately, Flower opted to give things a try…as Thor pointed out, he had his own share of trauma to work through, too.

To get insight into “A Date to Remember,” Carrasco and Long spoke with Give Me My Remote about Flower and Thor’s step forward. 



To start with the lighter element, how was it actually filming the two similar—but different—dates?
Sheila Carrasco: Oh, it was so fun, because any time we did a scene, we got to do both [dates], back to back. So for me, I got to do one when it was her first time seeing it, and then the second one, to be able to be kind of deceptive as Flower—it was so fun. Because she’s trying her best to pretend like she’s seeing it for the first time. But what does that mean for someone like Flower, who has trouble remembering what someone just said? [Laughs.] So it was a really fun challenge. And the days were just great. Like, everyone in the cast was making us laugh so much. I really felt like I was on a date, and having the time of my life, because Devan and I just got to sit on the couch and watch our friends entertain us. So yeah, I had a blast. What about you, Dev?
Devan Chandler Long: It’s a fun little tidbit there, that Flower understands that everyone expects her to forget things, so she could use that as a tool to her advantage when something doesn’t go the way she wants it. She can forget it! And then like everyone else has to forget it, too. It’s kind of cool. It’s the 50 FIRST DATES thing, but, really, we never know what she remembers. She has the power to publicly recall whatever she wants, which is kind of an interesting power, because not a lot of us can be like, “Oh, I don’t remember that. Oh, no, no, that didn’t happen.” And people are like, “No, you were there.”
Carrasco: It would be funny if she kept trying to [pretend she forgot things in the future] and they’re like alright, Flower—you gotta stop doing this. [Laughs.]

I’m curious if you think this was the first time Flower has tried this and how she might utilize it going forward…
Carrasco: Yeah, I think that this is probably the first time she’s done it. I do think she doesn’t really have a bad bone in her body, so I don’t think it would occur to her—until now, when the stakes were this high—that she needed to kind of use tools from her toolbox. But I sure would love it if she tried to do it more in the future to get away with things. I think it’s just a fun new power that she has discovered. [Laughs.] I had a really fun time doing it and kind of getting the best of everybody for a short amount of time.



Looking at her backstory and why she was hesitant to get close, how did that inform both your view of Flower and also how Flower and Thor might move forward now that the real source of her fear has been acknowledged?
Carrasco: We’re gonna find out that the last real two-person relationship she was in, she lost that person, and felt an immense amount of grief. And so I think that it’s made getting close, romantically, with just one person and putting all your chips into a relationship and really coming to depend on that person and trust them and be vulnerable with them only to lose them….it’s made it very, very scary.

So I think that it’s a really justifiable reason for her to be scared of dating Thorfinn, especially because she can feel the chemistry, and feel how deep their love could be. And I think that her being able to unpack that with the help of Sam—and Rose just played that scene so beautifully. She’s always such an amazing scene partner; she really is like Sam with the ghosts, with us as actors in real life. She’s such a good listener. So, Sam helping Flower navigate those emotions and fears, and Thorfinn being there to say, “Hey, listen, I’ve been through trauma, too. No one knows what’s going to happen. Let’s see what happens. Let’s give it a shot.” I think that she feels brave enough to try, because I think in the end, it could be worth it. And so I hope that with Thorfinn it is. I hope that they are able to have a lot of fun and a lot of adventures together going forward. We’ll see. They both have a lot more issues to resolve and navigate. With each other’s help, it could be a really funny, awesome journey, for sure.

Now that Thor has this insight into Flower’s past, what does this mean to him and how might it change his approach with her?
Long: If there’s one thing that you learn from being dead for a thousand years, it’s patience. Thor is obviously hot to trot, but he realizes that no one’s going anywhere. And you just gotta wait for your person to kind of arrive on the same frequency as you are. He did a great job of just kind of just holding space for Flower, being, “Hey, this is how I feel. This is where I am. I’m not going to push it. But if you want to join me on this journey, I will wait at the shore. And the moment you hop on the boat, we’re gonna go on a cool little booze cruise. Minus all the booze, plus all the rams testicles.” [Laughs.] All aboard!

I think he’s done a great job. He might be able to teach some of us out there, relationship-wise, that when you find someone you like, it doesn’t have to happen immediately. You just be yourself, be present. If it works out and the two people come together naturally, then that’s how it should be. But if one person is not all there, then you can’t get them there by doing anything. And if you were to push them into it, that would be wrong. So I just think that it’s beautifully written the way that, naturally, Flower and Thor found each other on the same wavelength, and that’s what we get to have fun with in this episode.

GHOSTS, Thursdays, 8:30/7:30c, CBS

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